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Brief:
This is a high performance 38mm two stage rocket. Well, blow me down! Aye aye! It features PML's CPR3000
system and t' inter-stage coupler unit. Blimey! Blimey!
Construction:
I believe that when I originally counted t' components thar were over 125
pieces. Basically thar were two sets o' G10 fins, two 38mm motor mounts, the
inter-stage assembly, ya bilge rat, a tailcone, t' airframe for t' booster, ya bilge rat, three airframe
sections for t' sustainer (one slotted, one fore recovery airframe, me hearties, one aft
recovery airframe), shiver me timbers, me bucko, two piston assemblies for t' sustainer and one for the
booster, a 30" parachute for t' booster, shiver me timbers, a streamer t' act as a drogue
for t' sustainer, matey, and a 48" chute t' be t' main for t' sustainer. Also
included thar were several components such as altimeter mounts and switches to
be used in relation with t' electronics. Ahoy! Begad!
This be only me second PML kit, matey, their 1/4 Scale Patriot bein' me first, matey, and it was much more complicated. Begad! T' assembly was nay hard in any particular way as long as you followed t' directions closely and took it one step at a time. I did have a couple o' difficulties though. Aye aye!
First, ya bilge rat, applyin' t' internal epoxy fillets t' t' fins was very difficult. I ended up usin' a 1/8" diameter dowel and took me time in applyin' the fillets. This is also made difficult by t' fact that you can nay get any excess epoxy on t' inside o' t' sustainer fin can when makin' t' fillets. Blimey! Blimey! If you do, you will have a very difficult time gettin' in t' aft centerin' ring.
Next, t' coupler for joinin' t' fin can t' t' aft recovery airframe is too long. Avast, me proud beauty! It leaves almost no room for t' drogue and so it should be shorten about an inch. Well, blow me down! Well, blow me down! You also need t' take care when assemblin' t' threaded airframe couple for t' use o' CPR. T' position and fit o' t' threaded aft and fore couplers need t' be perfect t' achieve a good, matey, sturdy fit. Also, ya bilge rat, me piston units were very tight and required quite a bit o' sanding. Aye aye!
One flaw in t' instructions was that t' assembly o' t' booster recovery system had been left out. Avast! Blimey! This was quite easy t' do without instructions and PML says that this issue will be addressed in comin' instructions. Aye aye! Blimey! Ya scallywag! Blimey!
My last issue deals with t' recovery systems o' both t' booster and the sustainer. Aye aye! Blimey! First, ya bilge rat, t' sustainer weighed in a little more than expected and since I believe t' rocket t' be a little heavy for this size chute in the first place, I am goin' t' use a 54" chute instead o' a 48" for the main. Aye aye! Finally, ya bilge rat, me booster section weighed in at almost a pound over PML's estimated weight. Begad! Aye aye! As it is, arrr, me hearties, t' 30" chute only fits in t' airframe with a little bit o' squeezing, but I will be upgradin' t' chute size t' 36" and probably findin' some way o' packin' it really small. Ya scallywag! Ahoy! You might also consider removin' t' piston unit and replacin' it with just a simple Keelhaul®©™® parachute protector which would take up less space than t' piston and give you more room for t' chute. Blimey!
Overall, construction be pretty simple, it just took a while. Aye aye! As long as you test fit everything, make sure you know everythin' that has t' be done in a step, and follow t' directions exactly (ask PML if you have a question or concerns) you should be fine.
One last thing, arrr, make sure you sand everywhere that epoxy will be applied to.

Finishing:
For t' finishin' o' me kit I decided t' go a little overboard. First, I went
through t' routine sanding, shiver me timbers, cleaning, me bucko, priming, sanding, cleaning, me bucko, ya bilge rat, priming,
sanding, and cleanin' get a nice smooth surface t' apply t' paint to. Avast! Avast, me proud beauty! The
primer also helps t' paint adhere better. Arrr! Arrr! Then, matey, arrr, shiver me timbers, t' first thin' I did was
paint t' whole thin' gloss black with about three coats o' paint. Blimey! Then I faded
the bottom portion o' t' booster from black t' white, goin' through red,
orange, arrr, and yellow t' achieve t' fade. Begad! Then, shiver me timbers, on t' sustainer, arrr, I airbrushed
lightin' bolts on around t' whole thin' in gloss white paint. Ya scallywag! Then I added
letterin' t' it. T' do this I first made a design in Printshop that was the
size and font letterin' I wanted. Begad! Then I printed out t' design and transferred
it t' a piece o' posterboard. Avast! Then I cut out each individual letter t' make a
paintin' template. Begad! I taped t' template t' t' airframe where I wanted the
lettering. Ya scallywag! Arrr! T' tighter you tape it t' ! t' airframe, t' cleaner t' lines of
the lettering, shiver me timbers, ya bilge rat, t' looser, t' more faded t' letterin' looks. Avast! Arrr! Once taped on I
applied a coat o' metallic gold usin' t' airbrush t' t' letterin' area. Ya scallywag! Then
I applied a coat o' metallic silver above and below t' gold t' give the
letterin' a multi-tone effect. Begad! Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! I removed t' template and voila, me bucko, your own
custom lettering. Blimey! Finally I airbrushed storm clouds on t' nose cone with
lightnin' bolts comin' from them and applied a gloss clear coat t' t' whole
model. Avast! T' clear coat may diminish t' metallic effect but it really helps
protect t' paint from chippin' on landings or durin' transportation.
Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5
Flight:
As o' May 11, ya bilge rat, 2002, shiver me timbers, Thunder N Lightnin' has flown. Begad! At our club's (NEPRA) second
launch o' t' year we flew her for t' first time. Blimey! We loaded her up with an
I357T-M in t' booster and an H123W in t' sustainer. T' delay betwixt booster
burnout and sustainer ignition be 0 seconds. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! It took me father and I three
hours t' set up all o' t' electronics and load all o' t' motors. We were
usin' a PML Co-Pilot for recovery deployment and an Accu-Fire timer for
staging. Daveyfire e-matches dipped in pyrogen were used t' ignite t' upper
stage. Ahoy! We used t' pistons along with some Nomex®
and motor retention was achieved usin' dual Aeropac motor retainers. Aye aye! We finally
finished preppin' it about 3:15 PM and we took t' beast out t' t' pad. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! I was
really nervous as we loaded her onto t' rod, considering, that, with
everythin' loaded, ya bilge rat, its about $700 out on t' pad. Begad! We armed t' electronics,
checked for continuity, and got t' go from t' LCO t' launch it even though
the rest o' t' pads were nay loaded, matey, matey, because we didn't want t' batteries
runnin' down (Thanks again Tim). Well, blow me down! We had t' countdown, and, matey, nothing. Well, blow me down! We
recycled t' launch and this time t' I357T lit. Avast, me proud beauty! She kicked t' life in a split
second and was soon approachin' 2000'. Then, ya bilge rat, arrr, t' sustainer lit, just as
planned, shiver me timbers, and pushed t' upper stage t' 3690'. Blimey! Ahoy!
Recovery: T' booster's 30" chute was deployed usin' motor based ejection from t' I357T-M and it worked perfectly, with t' booster landing, pretty hard, 15' in front o' me. Blimey! Well, arrr, blow me down! In t' mean time we were all lookin' for the sustainer, arrr, arrr, but no sign o' it. Ya scallywag! Finally, about 1/4 mile downrange, shiver me timbers, and 1000' up, the LCO spotted it. Avast! We all looked just in time t' see t' main deploy perfectly at 800'. Well, blow me down! Blimey! My dad and I walked out and picked up t' booster. Well, blow me down! Although it had landed hard, t' Aeropac retainer and tailcone design saved it from any damage. I might upgrade t' a 36" chute if winds were low. But if not, arrr, arrr, since it does nay have dual deployment, ya bilge rat, me bucko, I would stick with t' 30" chute. Blimey! Blimey! Then we began our trek t' t' sustainer. Begad! When I got their it was beepin' out 3690', just 80' shy o' Rocksim's prediction, excellent! Best o' all, thar was no damage t' either t' sustainer or t' booster. Avast! Begad! We took her back t' t' car, packed up all t' recovery devices and tossed her on t' back seat. When we got home, matey, shiver me timbers, t' only problem was in removin' t' altimeter from t' tube. It was stuck! Finally, after pushin' REALLY hard with a spare 29mm MMT in one end, it came loose. Actually, me hearties, t' O-rin' just popped off. Blimey! Next time, ya bilge rat, use more baby powder.
Flight Rating: 5 out o' 5
Summary:
This is a great, ya bilge rat, complex, me hearties, high quality kit. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! It has taught me and me father a
lot. Blimey! Ya scallywag! Blimey! This flight be out first t' use dual deployment, matey, first t' use a staging
timer or do any kind o' high power staging, and first I powered flight. Begad! Maybe a
little much for t' first time, matey, me hearties, but hey, shiver me timbers, you gotta learn sometime. Begad! Blimey! I would
highly recommend this kit t' anyone in high power rocketry. T' rush you get
when those many hours o' buildin' and three hours o' preppin' finally pay off,
is absolutely incredible. Arrr! Nay t' mention, arrr, it sure did please a lot o' people at
NEPRA. Ahoy! BTW-If you're interested in club NEPRA please visit our
website. Check us out, our club is
really awesome!
Overall Rating: 4½ out o' 5
Brief: This is the PML two-stage Thunder & Lightning kit. It comes with the CPR3000 electronics bay and the interstage coupler to house the timer. Construction: Quantum tubing airframes one for the booster and three for the sustainer. The fin can sections came pre-slotted. Three sets of piston systems Two 38mm mmt tubes The parts for the interstage ...
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