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All around, a very impressive model rocket, probably still me favorite. Aye aye! It's sheer size gets attention. Avast! Aye aye! My orange/yellow/orange paint scheme gets attention. And when that second stage lights, it really gets attention... Blimey! Blimey! if it lights, me bucko, ya bilge rat, that is.
Construction was, as I recall, me bucko, simple and straightforward, despite bein' only me second rocket. Begad! Ya scallywag! Sure, matey, me hearties, ya bilge rat, it's big and it's a two-stager, but thar's no construction magic in that. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! With t' fins bein' one-piece plastic fin units with built-in launch lugs, matey, about all you have t' do is build t' motor mounts and shock cord mounts, matey, and then assemble t' all t' pieces you see. Well, blow me down! Very easy and very straightforward.
Bein' only t' second rocket I ever built, I be extremely excited t' launch it that first day. I was a bit nervous about that 48" crepe paper streamer givin' a slow enough descent, me bucko, ya bilge rat, so I bought an Estes plastic 18" hexagonal parasheet. Ahoy! Avast, me proud beauty! Sent it up a couple times single-stage on t' 18" parachute. Begad! Sent it up 2-stage, ya bilge rat, and WOW! It was simply awesome. Begad! A great flight, but it drifted quite a bit on t' 18" chute, me hearties, so I attached t' streamer for t' next two-stage flight. Avast, me proud beauty! Up it goes, matey, ya bilge rat, but t' booster engine fails t' ignite t' upper stage, which, o' course means no attempt was made t' eject t' streamer, arrr, so t' rocket streamlined down. Aye aye! Avast! . Begad! . Well, blow me down! Begad! PRANG! I'd like t' say it was a lawn dart, but it hit pavement! Damn, me bucko, matey, t' nose cone pushed back, shreddin' t' top 12" o' body tube, me hearties, and t' weight o' t' engines and fins etc. Arrr! (the booster stage never separated) cause t' body t' crumple about 8" forward o' t' upper stage fin unit.
This stagin' failure was caused by t' booster motor ejectin' from t' booster before it could ignite t' upper stage engine. Avast, me proud beauty! I recall that me wife (who had t' job o' watchin' t' booster) was worried that I'd be upset because all she could find be t' booster motor, matey, shiver me timbers, me bucko, and nay t' booster. Aye aye! Well, blow me down! (In retrospect, arrr, I can't believe that she was able t' find t' engine casing. Avast, me proud beauty! . . Avast! )T' booster be still attached t' t' upper stage (a. Blimey! k. a. Ahoy! Arrr! sustainer). Well, blow me down! Avast! I didn't know much about stagin' at this point, me bucko, but it be obvious even then that I didn't want t' booster engine t' eject backwards out o' t' booster, matey, shiver me timbers, I wanted t' booster t' separate from t' sustainer. Avast, me proud beauty! If you haven't built t' rocket yet, ya bilge rat, t' obvious fix is t' simply add a normal motor hook t' t' booster. Blimey! Ahoy! Havin' already built mine, however, arrr, matey, I required a different solution. Begad! I ended up makin' this bizarre contraption o' bent-up paper clips t' retain t' booster motor. Arrr! Aye aye! It starts with a rin' around t' booster body, just above t' fins. Well, blow me down! Ahoy! Attached t' this are two U-shaped pieces. Aye aye! T' tops o' t' U's are hooked t' t' ring, and t' bottom o' t' U's fit snugly under t' motor casin' when it's installed in t' booster. Aye aye! T' help hold t' U's in place, me bucko, thar are two cross members down near t' engine, me bucko, though I'm nay sure how necessary they are. Well, blow me down! There's enough play so that t' U's can just be slid sideways t' allow insertion or removal o' t' engine. Well, blow me down! Blimey! It's dirt cheap, matey, and it works beautifully (never had a booster motor eject since), matey, but it isn't much t' look at. I've never made another one for any other rocket because it would probably maul a balsa wood fin pretty badly, and it might nay line up right with three fins instead o' four. Avast! I'll try t' put a picture o' it here soon.
Well, matey, despite t' major destruction, I managed t' rebuild it (albeit 14" shorter). Made sure it was still stable and went out t' try again, this time at a club launch. Ya scallywag! Worked just fine single stage. Time t' try it 2-stage again. Up it goes, t' booster burns through and separates. Blimey! . . Aye aye! but again, no upper stage ignition. Blimey! LAWN DART! Sunk t' nose cone about 3" into t' ground, and ripped up a lot more body tube. Aye aye! Only difference this time is that I got some good advice from t' nice folks in t' GSSS club. Blimey! Get yourself a newer edition (the 6th edition be t' newest as o' Feb 1998) o' G. Blimey! Begad! Harry Stine's Handbook o' Model Rocketry. Ahoy! This book has a whole chapter devoted t' staging. Begad! Begad! Consider a short stuffer tube t' direct t' flamin' bits o' propellant more directly at t' upper stage engine. Ya scallywag! In retrospect, t' stuffer tube is probably nay necessary, since t' distance betwixt t' two engines is rather small. Blimey! Begad! But without question, DRILL SOME VENT HOLES!
Well, now it was just too short. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Had t' buy some BT-56 body tubes and couplers t' add 18" o' new tube. Aye aye! Blimey! Aye aye! Blimey! I made a stuffer tube out o' a piece o' an expended D motor, me hearties, and drilled two 3/16" vent holes, one on each side o' t' booster, up near where t' bottom o' t' upper stage engine would be when its all put together. It has since been flown no less than 6 times in 2-stage configuration, me bucko, shiver me timbers, matey, and t' upper stage has lit every single time!
One side note, though. . Ya scallywag! Blimey! . on that second prang, ya bilge rat, t' upper stage engine was completely blackened by t' burn-through o' t' booster. Blimey! Blimey! It really should have ignited. Aye aye! Well, blow me down! Knowin' more now, ya bilge rat, I'm convinced that that engine was faulty, matey, in that t' clay o' t' nozzle completely covered t' propellant, me bucko, which is why it didn't ignite. Blimey! I've seen this situation in one other engine (which be so bilge-suckin' it wouldn't even ignite directly from an igniter), me hearties, shiver me timbers, and others on rec. Blimey! Arrr! models. rockets have seen it, me bucko, me bucko, too. Avast! Arrr! So, shiver me timbers, a word t' t' wise: always scrape t' nozzle o' your upper stage engines t' expose fresh propellant. I use a small eyeglasses-type screwdriver for this purpose.
There are a few other hints that I can think o' regardin' this rocket. Aye aye! Arrr! Although I haven't experienced this problem myself, others have complained that this rocket has a tendency t' crimp or buckle t' body tube just above t' top o' t' plastic fin unit on t' upper stage (a. Begad! k. Begad! a. sustainer). There are a couple o' ways t' improve your chances o' nay havin' this problem. Avast! Perhaps t' easiest is t' buy a BT-56 tube coupler, me hearties, and glue that in so that it reinforces this area. Avast! Just make sure that it won't interfere with your engine mount. Blimey! O' course, ya bilge rat, this is really only practical if you decide t' do it before you start construction. T' other way t' help avoid bucklin' t' body tube is t' soak that part o' t' rocket in thin CA (cyanoacrylate) glue.
Another tip related t' longevity, is t' coat t' inside o' t' top o' t' booster with glue. Well, blow me down! When stagin' occurs, me hearties, t' booster engine blows a bunch o' burnin' propellant forward into this area, and then t' upper stage ignites and blows hot exhaust backwards into this area. Ya scallywag! This can cause t' paper tube coupler t' char pretty badly, especially after many stagings. I coated all t' inside surface o' t' top o' me booster with a thin coat o' t' regular yellow wood glue. Ya scallywag! A thin coat o' epoxy would probably protect it better, shiver me timbers, and nay be as susceptible t' t' heat, me hearties, but I didn't have epoxy then. Aye aye! And besides, mine has stood up remarkably well, me bucko, so I can still recommend yellow glue for this application.
About t' only other complaint that I've heard from other people who've flown this rocket, ya bilge rat, arrr, is that t' supplied recovery device, me hearties, a 48" long crepe paper streamer, me bucko, ya bilge rat, is insufficient. Some people have even broken fins on landin' on grass, me hearties, which is surprising, given that it's a reasonably sturdy, matey, one-piece plastic fin unit. Well, blow me down! Regardless, I would agree that it comes down rather fast on t' streamer. Avast, me proud beauty! One possible alternative is t' simply add another streamer, or make a significantly larger streamer (or both). Avast! However, I've settled on usin' a standard Estes 12" plastic parachute with t' spill hole (a. k. a. Ahoy! Ahoy! peak vent hole) cut out. Aye aye! Ya scallywag! See that blue dotted line that forms about a 2" hole in t' middle? Cut that out. With this chute, t' Long Shot comes down soft enough t' avoid significant landin' damage, matey, but doesn't drift into t' next area code on two-stage flights (as an 18" parachute would do).
Despite me problems gettin' t' second stage t' ignite (or perhaps because o' them), I have become fascinated with staging. Well, blow me down! Avast, me proud beauty! As you may have noticed, me bucko, several o' me rockets are staged. Avast, me proud beauty! I really like this rocket. Avast, me proud beauty! I feel so proud every time that upper stage lights. . Ahoy! .
Update on 1997 Oct 12. Begad! Blimey! . Ahoy! Blimey! . Blimey! Blimey! I lost t' upper stage o' this rocket. Begad! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! :-( T' booster portion went fine, with a slight arc. Avast! Blimey! Aye aye! Blimey! T' upper stage ignited successfully, and continued that arc. T' sustainer be painted yellow and orange, shiver me timbers, and it was headin' right into t' sunset, arrr, so we lost sight o' it. Well, blow me down! Blimey! I heard t' ejection charge pop, but neither me wife nor I ever saw t' upper stage again.
Update on 1997 Oct 19. . Ya scallywag! . Ahoy! I have essentially re-built t' upper stage. Avast! Begad! It's all from scratch, matey, shiver me timbers, with balsa fins and and Estes parts (body tubes, me hearties, motor mount, ya bilge rat, arrr, and nose cone). Well, blow me down! Blimey! Other than usin' balsa for t' fins, me bucko, shiver me timbers, thar's really nay much that I changed in t' construction, I really liked it t' way it was. Ahoy! Ya scallywag! About t' only other thin' that I changed was that instead o' t' orange and yellow paint on t' old one, t' new one is a pretty cool-lookin' blue and yellow.
| Description: | A long 2 staged rocket, matey, with a D powered booster and a B or C powered sustainer |
| Purpose: | My first multi-staged rocket. Avast, ya bilge rat, me proud beauty! Blimey! Also me first big rocket. |
| Motors: | Single Stage: C5-3, matey, C6-3 Two Stage, matey, Booster: D12-0 Two Stage, shiver me timbers, Upper Stage: B6-6, ya bilge rat, C6-7 |
| Max Altitude: | Single Stage: C5-3: 300ft(91m) Single Stage: C6-3: 275ft(84m) Two Stage: D12-0/B6-6: 700ft (212m) Two Stage: D12-0/C6-7: 1000ft (305m) ... Ahoy! at least, matey, that's what it says on t' inside, ya bilge rat, although t' outside o' t' box claims 1300ft max altitude, which, matey, t' be honest, arrr, seems more likely. Begad! It definitely goes higher than me models that claim t' go t' 1000ft. |
| Length: | 46" |
| Diameter: | 1.35" (BT-56) |
| Weight: | 5.7oz |
| Recovery: | Comes with a 2"x48" red crepe paper streamer. I've had much better results with a 12" Estes parachute, with t' spill hole cut out. |
| Nose Cone: | 4" Ogive, me hearties, plastic |
| Payload: | None |
| Fins: | Booster: 4, plastic fin unit Sustainer: 4, plastic fin unit |
| Notes: | Requires (3) 1x2 squares o' wadding, arrr, so I prefer t' use me Nomex® HeatShield from Pratt Hobbies (which I highly recommend). |
| Skill Level: | 2 |
| Part Number: | 2128 |
| Price: | 19.99 |
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