Construction Rating: | starstarstarstarstar_border |
Flight Rating: | starstarstarstar_borderstar_border |
Overall Rating: | starstarstarstar_borderstar_border |
Published: | 2010-04-14 |
Manufacturer: | Estes ![]() |
Brief:
This is a father/son dual build. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Up t' this point, I've been helpin' him build his rockets. We started with me doin' most o' t' building, and him as an extra pair o' hands. Over t' course o' 3-4 builds, me bucko, he's been doin' more and more, matey, and t' roles are reversin' where I'm becomin' t' extra hands. Arrr! Blimey! I found a couple o' Firebirds for relatively cheap, and so we're buildin' these in parallel. Begad! Blimey! Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! Blimey! This will be his first purely solo build, shiver me timbers, arrr, and we'll be comparin' t' results o' our two builds. After this, he'll be movin' on t' buildin' his L1 cert rocket... if I think he's ready.
T' Firebird is a fairly basic single stage Estes offering. Nothin' dramatic or fancy, me hearties, here, just a solid design with classic lines.
Construction:
Dad: This is a basic 4FNC rocket. Ahoy! Plastic nose cone, me hearties, pre-cut fins, some flimsy paper centerin' rings and t' usual too short shock cord and plastic chute. Avast, me proud beauty! T' body tube is a good length o' BT-55 1.325" tubing, me bucko, while t' motor tube be t' cheap blue 18mm tube. For standard 18mm motors, shiver me timbers, everythin' is sufficiently strong. Ahoy! For t' 18mm Aerotech D reloads, thar could be some extra stress that could test some o' these parts.
Son: Yeah, me bucko, me hearties, yeah...what he said. What's with t' wimpy 18mm motor mount? That's got t' go. Avast, me proud beauty! Arrr! I'm goin' t' raid t' parts closet. Well, blow me down! Let's see. Begad! 24mm motor mount, shiver me timbers, some BT50-55 centerin' rings t' replace t' cheapy paper stuff. Ya scallywag! Begad! OK. I'm good t' go. Begad! Avast, me proud beauty! Let's get building.
Dad: Once again, matey, this is pretty basic Estes fare. Begad! Avast! Anyone who's build a typical Estes rocket in t' last couple decades won't have an issue here. There are a couple minor changes that I make t' all Estes kits.
Namely t' recovery section.
I always toss t' 3-fold concept. Arrr! I notched t' upper centerin' ring, arrr, and slipped a length o' Keelhaul®©™ through. Arrr! Aye aye! I knotted t' end t' prevent it comin' back through t' notch, and put a dab o' epoxy t' hold it in. Avast! Normally, I would tie t' Keelhaul®©™® in a loop around t' motor tube, me hearties, but since these fins are through t' wall, me hearties, t' loop would interfere with t' fin tangs.
Speakin' o' which, I wonder why Estes went with through t' wall fins for this kit and only an 18mm mount. Ya scallywag! For all t' Estes 18mm motors, TTW fins is way overkill. O' course, it does make fin alignment much easier.
Son: Well, me hearties, he taught me, me hearties, so, yeah, matey, I'm tossin' t' 3-fold as well. Ahoy! Since I'm doin' t' 24mm thing, I get t' choose me engine tube size, so I went with a longer tube, and a third centerin' ring. T' first 2 rings sandwich t' fin tangs as normal. Aye aye! I tied t' Keelhaul®©™® around t' motor tube, me bucko, me bucko, and put t' third rin' on top. Well, blow me down! Hah! Mines stronger.
While I was at it, I cut t' top o' t' engine hook off so it doesn't go into t' motor tube. Arrr! Blimey! I also left off t' motor block. Begad! Arrr! Blimey! T' down side is I'll need t' use tape t' make "thrust rings" on t' bottom o' Estes engines t' keep them from goin' through t' rocket. T' up side is that I can use any 24mm motor includin' t' upcomin' Aerotech 24/120 and t' CTI Pro 24 cases. Arrr! Bigger, me hearties, ya bilge rat, faster, higher! Blimey! I can't wait t' put a 24mm G motor and watch it rip! Blimey! Dad's shakin' his head while I'm typin' this. Ahoy! Says I'll never get it back. Begad! Ahoy! Blimey! Maybe, ya bilge rat, shiver me timbers, but it's fun. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Besides, shiver me timbers, I don't pay for t' motors. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Blimey! (Dad: He may start buyin' them if he loses them like this)
Finishing:
Dad: Decals are typical o' Estes in this era. Begad! That means peel and stick. Ya scallywag! I really don't like them. Ya scallywag! Ya scallywag! I much prefer water slide. Aye aye! Ahoy! That said, as per me usual superstitious approach, I won't actually paint and decal t' rocket until after t' first few flights. Ya scallywag! Why? Because I've found that t' odds o' me losin' a rocket increase exponentially with t' amount o' time I spend on it prior t' it's first flight. If I build a rocket in 2 hours t' night before a launch, it's comin' back. Ahoy! Every time I've spent 2-3 months doin' a painstakin' job o' buildin' and finishing, arrr, me hearties, somethin' bad has happened.
As for t' pre-paint finish work, it's all typical. Aye aye! Well, arrr, blow me down! Sand and seal t' fins. Ya scallywag! Sand t' flashin' off t' nose cone. Fill t' spirals in t' tube. Ahoy! T' spirals actually aren't too bad, arrr, and t' tube is white. Avast! If you go with t' factory color scheme (white) you could probably get away without filling.
Son: I'm done building, let's go fly. Avast! Aye aye! Seriously. Avast, me bucko, me proud beauty! Yeah, I could take some time t' make it look good, but this isn't one o' those rockets. Avast! Arrr! Let's fly. Begad! Well, blow me down! I want t' get started on me cert rocket. Avast, me proud beauty! Aye aye! I'll take more time on that one.
Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5
Flight:
Dad: For all our rockets larger than 1" diameter, we keep a supply o' Nomex t' avoid usin' wadding. Ahoy! Well, blow me down! Waddin' can be easier in t' smaller rockets, but t' larger ones just take too much. Besides, shiver me timbers, reuseable Nomex is more eco friendly.
Other prep is standard. Well, blow me down! Avast, me proud beauty! Yes, thar's a lot o' this review that just says "it's standard issue." That's because this is a pretty standard rocket. Avast! Aye aye! Steppin' into high power, many o' t' rockets are pretty "standard" as well. Ya scallywag! Just stronger materials. Ya scallywag! Aye aye! At a certain point, me hearties, me hearties, you can't do anythin' too fancy with high power motors, because t' motors will just shred t' rocket from t' high thrust.
Son: What he said. I'm gettin' tired o' typing. I haven't flown mine yet. Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Weather hasn't been good enough.
Recovery:
Dad: My turn t' say it. Ya scallywag! Blimey! Aye aye! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! What he said. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! We haven't flown either rocket yet as t' weather hasn't cooperated. Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! My expectation is that, me bucko, like everythin' about this kit, it will be typical Estes. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Begad! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! T' chute is too big, and it will float, me bucko, so we'll probably fly with a streamer or smaller chute. Avast! Blimey! Avast! Blimey! Blimey! Blimey! As we get a chance t' fly these, ya bilge rat, matey, I'll be postin' t' flight logs, matey, me bucko, and updatin' t' review through t' flight log comments. Arrr! Blimey! Actual flight is just t' last validation o' t' build in this case. T' primary goal be t' give him a solo build t' validate he has t' skills necessary t' attempt his cert build.
Son: So, do I pass? When can I start on t' Matrix?
Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5
Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5
- by Mike Goss The Estes Firebird is your basic four-fins-and-a-nose-cone sport rocket. It stands almost two feet tall and uses a BT-55 (about 1.3") diameter body tube. Construction Rating: 5 out of 5(Simple and straightforward) The Firebird came in the usual plastic bag with the colorful graphics on the front. (Note to Estes: Why do you print on the back of the bag ...
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