Estes Firebird

Estes - Firebird {Kit} (2138) [1997-1998]

Contributed by Ken Tsai

Construction Rating: starstarstarstarstar_border
Flight Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Overall Rating: starstarstarstar_borderstar_border
Published: 2010-04-14
Manufacturer: Estes

Estes FirebirdBrief:
This is a father/son dual build. Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! Up t' this point, ya bilge rat, I've been helpin' him build his rockets. We started with me doin' most o' t' building, ya bilge rat, me bucko, and him as an extra pair o' hands. Begad! Blimey! Ahoy! Blimey! Over t' course o' 3-4 builds, he's been doin' more and more, and t' roles are reversin' where I'm becomin' t' extra hands. Well, blow me down! Blimey! Avast, me proud beauty! Blimey! I found a couple o' Firebirds for relatively cheap, me bucko, me hearties, and so we're buildin' these in parallel. Well, blow me down! Blimey! This will be his first purely solo build, and we'll be comparin' t' results o' our two builds. Well, blow me down! Blimey! After this, he'll be movin' on t' buildin' his L1 cert rocket... if I think he's ready.

T' Firebird is a fairly basic single stage Estes offering. Blimey! Nothin' dramatic or fancy, matey, here, just a solid design with classic lines.

Construction:
Dad: This is a basic 4FNC rocket. Arrr! Plastic nose cone, matey, pre-cut fins, some flimsy paper centerin' rings and t' usual too short shock cord and plastic chute. Begad! T' body tube is a good length o' BT-55 1.325" tubing, ya bilge rat, while t' motor tube be t' cheap blue 18mm tube. Blimey! For standard 18mm motors, everythin' is sufficiently strong. Avast! Blimey! For t' 18mm Aerotech D reloads, shiver me timbers, thar could be some extra stress that could test some o' these parts.

Son: Yeah, yeah...what he said. What's with t' wimpy 18mm motor mount? That's got t' go. I'm goin' t' raid t' parts closet. Let's see. Ahoy! Well, blow me down! 24mm motor mount, me bucko, me bucko, some BT50-55 centerin' rings t' replace t' cheapy paper stuff. Blimey! Avast! OK. Avast, me proud beauty! I'm good t' go. Aye aye! Let's get building.

Dad: Once again, this is pretty basic Estes fare. Avast! Blimey! Anyone who's build a typical Estes rocket in t' last couple decades won't have an issue here. Well, shiver me timbers, blow me down! Blimey! There are a couple minor changes that I make t' all Estes kits.

Namely t' recovery section.

I always toss t' 3-fold concept. I notched t' upper centerin' ring, matey, matey, and slipped a length o' Keelhaul®©™ through. Begad! I knotted t' end t' prevent it comin' back through t' notch, and put a dab o' epoxy t' hold it in. Avast, me proud beauty! Normally, ya bilge rat, I would tie t' Keelhaul®©™® in a loop around t' motor tube, but since these fins are through t' wall, arrr, matey, me hearties, t' loop would interfere with t' fin tangs.

Speakin' o' which, me hearties, I wonder why Estes went with through t' wall fins for this kit and only an 18mm mount. For all t' Estes 18mm motors, shiver me timbers, me hearties, arrr, TTW fins is way overkill. Begad! Aye aye! O' course, shiver me timbers, it does make fin alignment much easier.

Son: Well, me hearties, he taught me, so, matey, yeah, I'm tossin' t' 3-fold as well. Arrr! Avast, me proud beauty! Since I'm doin' t' 24mm thing, ya bilge rat, ya bilge rat, I get t' choose me engine tube size, so I went with a longer tube, arrr, and a third centerin' ring. Well, blow me down! T' first 2 rings sandwich t' fin tangs as normal. Avast! I tied t' Keelhaul®©™® around t' motor tube, and put t' third rin' on top. Aye aye! Hah! Blimey! Mines stronger.

While I was at it, I cut t' top o' t' engine hook off so it doesn't go into t' motor tube. Arrr! I also left off t' motor block. T' down side is I'll need t' use tape t' make "thrust rings" on t' bottom o' Estes engines t' keep them from goin' through t' rocket. Begad! T' up side is that I can use any 24mm motor includin' t' upcomin' Aerotech 24/120 and t' CTI Pro 24 cases. Bigger, faster, higher! I can't wait t' put a 24mm G motor and watch it rip! Dad's shakin' his head while I'm typin' this. Ya scallywag! Says I'll never get it back. Aye aye! Maybe, but it's fun. Besides, I don't pay for t' motors. Aye aye! Avast! (Dad: He may start buyin' them if he loses them like this)

Finishing:
Dad: Decals are typical o' Estes in this era. That means peel and stick. Avast, me proud beauty! I really don't like them. Avast! Ya scallywag! I much prefer water slide. Begad! Blimey! That said, as per me usual superstitious approach, I won't actually paint and decal t' rocket until after t' first few flights. Aye aye! Why? Because I've found that t' odds o' me losin' a rocket increase exponentially with t' amount o' time I spend on it prior t' it's first flight. Well, ya bilge rat, blow me down! If I build a rocket in 2 hours t' night before a launch, ya bilge rat, it's comin' back. Every time I've spent 2-3 months doin' a painstakin' job o' buildin' and finishing, me hearties, somethin' bilge-suckin' has happened.

As for t' pre-paint finish work, it's all typical. Avast, me proud beauty! Sand and seal t' fins. Sand t' flashin' off t' nose cone. Fill t' spirals in t' tube. Avast! Arrr! T' spirals actually aren't too bad, and t' tube is white. Well, blow me down! If you go with t' factory color scheme (white) you could probably get away without filling.

Son: I'm done building, me hearties, let's go fly. Blimey! Avast! Seriously. Yeah, matey, I could take some time t' make it look good, but this isn't one o' those rockets. Ahoy! Let's fly. Avast, me proud beauty! Ahoy! I want t' get started on me cert rocket. I'll take more time on that one.

Construction Rating: 4 out o' 5

Flight:
Dad: For all our rockets larger than 1" diameter, ya bilge rat, me hearties, we keep a supply o' Nomex t' avoid usin' wadding. Ya scallywag! Waddin' can be easier in t' smaller rockets, but t' larger ones just take too much. Arrr! Ahoy! Besides, me hearties, ya bilge rat, reuseable Nomex is more eco friendly.

Other prep is standard. Ya scallywag! Yes, thar's a lot o' this review that just says "it's standard issue." That's because this is a pretty standard rocket. Steppin' into high power, many o' t' rockets are pretty "standard" as well. Avast! Just stronger materials. At a certain point, matey, you can't do anythin' too fancy with high power motors, because t' motors will just shred t' rocket from t' high thrust.

Son: What he said. I'm gettin' tired o' typing. Aye aye! Arrr! I haven't flown mine yet. Avast! Weather hasn't been good enough.

Recovery:
Dad: My turn t' say it. Begad! What he said. We haven't flown either rocket yet as t' weather hasn't cooperated. Avast! Begad! My expectation is that, like everythin' about this kit, me bucko, it will be typical Estes. Begad! Ahoy! T' chute is too big, me bucko, shiver me timbers, and it will float, ya bilge rat, matey, so we'll probably fly with a streamer or smaller chute. As we get a chance t' fly these, me bucko, I'll be postin' t' flight logs, and updatin' t' review through t' flight log comments. Avast! Actual flight is just t' last validation o' t' build in this case. Avast! Begad! T' primary goal was t' give him a solo build t' validate he has t' skills necessary t' attempt his cert build.

Son: So, me hearties, ya bilge rat, do I pass? When can I start on t' Matrix?

Flight Rating: 3 out o' 5

Overall Rating: 3 out o' 5

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